One of the delusions that we will clear up at the outset of this expose is the lie that leading Satanist’s do not believe in or truly worship the devil. First of all it should be understood that Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan viewed Satan as a true entity that he truly worshipped before his death. Anton LaVey deceived a lot of people who joined the Church of Satan by claiming that Satan only represented the repressed forces of nature but was not a real entity. In my interviews with former Charles Manson family member Susan Atkins, who is still in prison after being convicted of eight murders, Atkins blew the lid off of Anton’s lie. As a former associate of Anton LaVey’s, who danced for him and spent personal time with him before joining the Manson family, Atkins was privy to conversations with LaVey before he became popular. Atkins told me repeatedly that while LaVey promotes a watered down, palatable form of Satanism to the ignorant masses which he is deceiving, he acknowledged the exact opposite to her and to his inner core of Satanist in the church of Satan. Susan Atkins told me that LaVey told her emphatically while she was in his home that they truly worshipped Satan as a real entity and as the one who began the initial rebellion against God. Atkins also stated:
‘Anton told me that as a Satanist he does believe in the God of the Bible, but he refused to worship him, and made a conscious decision to worship Satan instead.’
Full Story: Jesus-Is-Savior.com.
(Thanks Nick).
March 4, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Michael Aquino makes the same claim about LaVey in his 999 page love/hate book on the Church of Satan [monster PDF here].
Could it just be possible that LaVey told people what they wanted to hear from time to time? Have you ever had a good friend play a prank on you?
March 5, 2008 at 1:19 am
I believe the Jesus people’s story. And like I told you before, everything on Technoccult is 100% true.
March 5, 2008 at 3:50 am
The story goes that upon his deathbed, LaVey did ‘recant’ in a way and profess his belief in the supernatural and Satan himself, which was met with the CoS party line that he was drugged and not in a sober state of mind. I call shenanigans, as it seems like just a ploy to get people interested in the satanic mystique. After all, the death notice was altered to say he passed on Halloween.
The CoS apparently was much more of a magickal [with a k] earlier on, but given all the dorks one has to deal with, I’d probably say I was a strict atheist at some point too.
I think its likely that he really didn’t care to define his belief one way or the other at a certain point, as his brain was preoccupied with soiled panty liners and android companions, which is obviously of a much greater interest to the man than the immaterial musings of theism.
March 5, 2008 at 4:06 am
this doesn’t come as a huge surprise to me.
assuming it was the work of the order of the trapezoid within the cos to perform the central thaumaturgy of the order’s egregore and keep their current alive, it would make sense that, at least in ceremonial setting, the entity may be perceived and approached as real. successful evocation kinda depends on that, even if it in fact a force represented by a personality that the human consciousness can better directly interface with.
i don’t know much about lavey’s philosophy in regards to technical aspects of ceremonial magick, (other than that in his view the most important aspect of effective magick was high psychodrama) but this seems like another instance of an argument that comes up alot in regards to working with spirits.
is it an actual daemon/angel/alien i’m talking to, who governs a certain aspect of nature? or is it all happening in my head? my guess is that it’s a bit of both, but getting too wrapped up in these thoughts is a distraction from the work.
i think the more important issue is wether or not it works and what one directs it toward.
xoxo, z
March 5, 2008 at 4:07 am
this wouldn’t come as a huge surprise to me.
assuming it was the work of the order of the trapezoid within the cos to perform the central thaumaturgy of the order’s egregore and keep their current alive, it would make sense that, at least in ceremonial setting, the entity may be perceived and approached as real. successful evocation kinda depends on that, even if it in fact a force represented by a personality that the human consciousness can better directly interface with.
i don’t know much about lavey’s philosophy in regards to technical aspects of ceremonial magick, (other than that in his view the most important aspect of effective magick was high psychodrama) but this seems like another instance of an argument that comes up alot in regards to working with spirits.
is it an actual daemon/angel/alien i’m talking to, who governs a certain aspect of nature? or is it all happening in my head? my guess is that it’s a bit of both, but getting too wrapped up in these thoughts is a distraction from the work.
i think the more important issue is wether or not it works and what one directs it toward.
xoxo, z
March 5, 2008 at 11:36 am
A Satanist? Lying about their beliefs to the public? But… but…
March 5, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Every controversial subject has the opposite side claiming that its opponent is lying. It can be in politics, religion and business.
Did Lavey secretly believe in a real Satan and just gave his line that Satan was just a symbol of anit-Christianity and human nature to recruit more members as the article stated?
Or are the Christians who wrote the article making things up to scare people who might be interested in the CoS into accepting Jesus.
Lavey was a showman and the Christians are great fearmongers.
Who do you believe? I guess it would be safer to believe the Christians, but that is exactly what the Christians want you to think like.
What a wonderful and interesting game this is.